Haringey Engagement - Our Buildings

About This Engagement

In 2020 we launched our new Estates Strategy, setting out our aims to have a modern estate, which enables us to provide care where and when people need it.

We want to provide high quality, modern and appropriate environments that support our vision to help local people live longer and healthier lives. To make improvements we will need to make some changes and we would like to hear from you about the proposed moves.

We currently provide services out of many locations across the borough. We have been working with Haringey Council as well as other local partners to think about where you access health services. We want to make this access simpler and more joined up for our patients and service users and we will achieve this by listening to you and working in partnership with the Council and voluntary sector.

We are proposing to create a children and young people’s health centre at Tynemouth Road Health Centre. Renovations at the hub, using feedback from service users, will modernise this facility and make it a welcoming space for the children and young people who will use it.

Currently several adult services are based at Tynemouth Road Health Centre and in these proposals most of them will move to Lordship Lane Health Centre, with our Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) service moving to the Laurels Health Living Centre. This will allow people with co-morbidities to access one-stop-shops eg people with diabetes will be able to access leg ulcer and podiatry clinics at the same time.

 

Information on the proposals

About this consultation

We are reviewing the locations that some of our children and adult services are provided in Haringey.
 
Whittington Health wants to provide high quality, modern and appropriate environments that support our vision to help local people live longer and healthier lives. To make improvements we will need to make some changes and we would like to hear from you about the proposed moves.
 
We currently provide services out of many locations across the borough. We have been working with Haringey Council as well as other local partners to think about where you access health services. We want to make this access simpler and more joined up for our patients and service users and we will achieve this by listening to you and working in partnership with the Council and voluntary sector.
 
In all of these proposals the only change is the location – the number of appointments, the clinicians that you see, and level of service will remain the same.
 
Current service locations and proposed new locations for Children and Young People Services:
 
Service Current location Moving to
Children in Care Service (looked after children) Bounds Green Health Centre Tynemouth Road Health Centre
Services based at the Child Development Centre (including children and young people therapies and community paediatrics) St Ann's Hospital Tynemouth Road Health Centre
Child Protection Medicals provided at the Paediatrics Assessment Unit St Ann's Hospital Tynemouth Road Health Centre
 
Current service locations and proposed new locations for Adult Community Services:

Cardiology
The Laurels Healthy Living Centre Lordship Lane Health Centre
Improving Access to Psychological Therapies (IAPT) Tynemouth Road Health Centre The Laurels Healthy Living Centre
Podiatry Tynemouth Road Health Centre and The Laurels Healthy Living Centre Lordship Lane Health Centre
Diabetes The Laurels Healthy Living Centre Lordship Lane Health Centre
Bladder and Bowel Tynemouth Road Health Centre

Lordship Lane Health Centre

 
 
Cardiology The Laurels Healthy Living Centre Lordship Lane Health Centre
Nutrition and dietetics The Laurels Healthy Living Centre Lordship Lane Health Centre
Respiratory The Laurels Healthy Living Centre Lordship Lane Health Centre
 
 

Why now?

• Since moving to an online or telephone format, as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, our Improving Access to Psychological Services (IAPT) service has received positive feedback. This means we need less clinic space going forward but will still be able to offer face-to-face appointments when they are needed.
• Barnet, Enfield and Haringey Mental Health NHS Trust (BEH) who own the St Ann’s Hospital site is starting to redevelop it, however even once revamped the location will not be as suitable for children and young people as Tynemouth Road Health Centre currently is. The St Ann’s Hospital site is mainly for mental health patients, while Tynemouth Road Health Centre will be developed, using patient feedback, to make it a modern children and young people friendly health centre.
• At the end of March, Whittington Health Trust will need to decide where our services will be located to prevent costly planning and building works being duplicated.
• Haringey residents have told us that health and care services should focus on the east of the borough.
• Patients, parents, staff and the CQC have all raised concerns that the condition and positioning of the buildings are not of a high enough stadard for the best standard of care.

Children and Young People's Services

Currently we provide some of our children’s services from St Ann’s Hospital and from Bounds Green Health Centre. We are proposing that we move services at the child Development Centre and Paediatric Assessment Unit from St Ann’s Hospital and the Children In Care Service from Bounds Green Health Centre to Tynemouth Road Health Centre.
 
The majority of our children’s services are delivered in local settings including schools, children’s centres, homes and community venues. This would not change and you should not expect where you have your appointments to change. However, we are proposing that the appointments provided at the Child Development Centre at St Ann’s Hospital move to Tynemouth Road Health Centre.
The move would involve relocating from St Ann’s Hospital the set of clinic rooms used by therapy services and community paediatrics known as the Child Development Centre and the clinic space used by the Children in Care team at Bounds Green Health Centre. In addition the office space for teams from both sites would move.

Advantages for these proposals
• Tynemouth Road Health Centre would become the children and young people health services hub in Haringey. Tynemouth Road Health Centre is a better facility for children and families. The spaces would be specifically designed for children and young people – with service users being involved in the development stage.
• Tynemouth Road Health Centre has excellent transport links (highest rating by TfL).
• Tynemouth Road Health Centre is in the East of Haringey, which is an area of increased deprivation and where the highest proportion of under 18s live.
• A children and young people’s hub will allow healthcare professionals to work closely together as part of a multi-disciplinary team.
• The move will save Whittington Health money in the long run as we own the Tynemouth Road Health Centre site and would not need to pay extra rent at St Ann’s Hospital.

Challenges
• Some people may have to travel further to have their appointments.
• The air quality around Tynemouth Road Health Centre and St Ann's Hospital regularly breaches EU standards.
• Patients and service users may not want to be seen in a different location.

Adult Community Services

Currently we run our adult services from Tynemouth Road Health Centre and from The Laurels Healthy Living Centre. We are proposing to co-locate podiatry, diabetes and cardiology services in Lordship Lane Health Centre and to move our IAPT services to The Laurels Healthy Living Centre.

Benefits of adult services moves
• People will be able to access one-stop-shop services for podiatry, diabetes and leg ulcer clinics
• At Lordship Lane Health Centre we will be able to work with Connected Communities, improving access to council and voluntary services, and support.
• The children’s services moves above will not be possible without these adult moves.

Challenges 
• Some people may have to travel further to have their appointments.
 

How to get involved

We believe that service users and local residents should be at the heart of our decision making — we will listen to your views and make changes based upon them. 
 
The consultation is open between Wednesday 20 January and Wednesday 7 April.
 
There are several ways for you to share your views on this consultation:
 Online events
We will host three online events to discuss the proposals. The events will cover all of the proposals and offer you a chance to ask questions and feedback.
  • Tuesday March 16, 2-3pm

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  •  Wednesday March 24, 7-8pm

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Please email engagement.whitthealth@nhs.net to book your place at an event. The events will be held on Zoom, with an option to call in, details of the event will be displayed here before the events.

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Further information

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Our Engagement Process

During this consultation we are aiming to speak to and hear from as many interested people as possible. COVID-19 means that some of our usual face-to-face engagement methods are impossible to carry out safely. However, we are working to a plan that enables us to reach as many people across the borough of Haringey as possible.
 
  • We have written out to patients and services users who used the service between the start of January 2020 and the end of December 2020. Each of these letters contained a letter, an information booklet on the proposals, a survey and a freepost envelope. This was based on advice from North Central London Clinical Commissioning Group (NCL CCG), Healthwatch Haringey, The Bridge Renewal Trust and Haringey Council.  
  • We have emailed all of the schools within Haringey directly, called all of the Special Educational Needs schools and contacted school Governors directly.
  • Emailed over 250 community, religious and other organisations asking for their help in sharing the proposals and inviting them to book engagement events for their members.
  • Hosted three online engagement sessions, where participants could hear about the plans and also ask any questions and raise concerns. 
  • The proposals have been shared in newsletters from Haringey Council, Healthwatch Haringey, The Bridge Renewal Trust and in our own stakeholder bulletin.
  • We have posted paid for targeted adverts on Facebook and Instagram. We regularly post about the consultation on Twitter.
  • We have employed Healthwatch Haringey as our Independent Evaluators.
 Upon advice of local SEND groups we have extended the consultation by three weeks and will be writing out to more people shortly.
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